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Re: Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux

by c0d3lib@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Apr 24, 2008 at 09:59 AM

On Apr 24, 5:42 pm, Karl Hanson <kchan...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> c0d3...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>
>    <snip>
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the reply, Larry.  Yes, The scenario you described is what
> > I'm trying to achieve.  The tables will reside on the DB/2 for Linux
> > host, and need to be accessible to the iSeries RPG/CL programs.  As
> > for your question about migrating the code, this would play into a
> > larger strategy that allows us to migrate some of the more interesting
> > processes of a legacy iSeries application.  The application is way too
> > large to try migrating the entire thing.
>
> > Have you ever tried or seen a similar implementation using the iSeries
> > as a client to any non-iSeries system?  Do you know of any issues I
> > should be expecting, such as the differences in security
> > implementations, etc?  Performance is already a concern, but all I can
> > do there is measure the differences once I have at least a basic
> > configuration established.
>
> DDM provides a different level of function than DRDA. DDM allows fairly
> transparent trans****t of "file I/O" requests from the System i running
> the RPG application, to a remote System i (for example) that can perform
> these file I/O requests.  The RPG program will typically do I/O requests
> such as read by key (SETLL?), read next key equal, read by relative
> record no., etc. As Larry mentioned, these are not SQL operations and
> DB2 for LUW does not sup****t "files", nor this type of file I/O (because
> it is not, and does not map to,
SQL).http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/index.jsp?topic...
>
> DRDA on the other hand allows trans****t of SQL requests between systems.
>   But since your RPG programs do file I/O and not SQL, DRDA would not
> sup****t your proposal. In other words, there is no function to
> automatically convert file I/O requests to SQL requests, as part of
> either DDM or DRDA. As you correctly surmised, in order to use DRDA
> (SQL), the RPG file I/O would need to be appropriately replaced with
> embedded SQL, or the
equivalent.http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/iseries/v5r4/index.jsp?topic...
>
> If the business logic to maintain the data currently resides on System
> i, what is the motivation to move the data to DB2 on Linux?  If Linux
> access to data on System i is the goal, could facilities like ODBC or
> JDBC (ie on a Linux client) provide that, w/o migrating the data?
>
> --
> Karl Hanson

The business logic is being migrated in pieces, so not all of it will
reside on the iSeries, but inevitably there will be non-migrated
processes that will still require access to the same files.

My misunderstanding of DRDA and DDM is that I thought DDM was a subset
of DRDA.  I was under the impression, any operation a program could
perform using DDM would translate to some function in DRDA and hence
to SQL concepts.  Thanks for clearing that up for me.
 




 7 Posts in Topic:
Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux
c0d3lib@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-23 04:11:00 
Re: Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux
Larry <larry@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-23 17:03:30 
Re: Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux
c0d3lib@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-24 04:53:58 
Re: Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux
Karl Hanson <kchanson@  2008-04-24 10:42:45 
Re: Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux
Larry <larry@[EMAIL PR  2008-04-24 20:38:26 
Re: Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux
c0d3lib@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-24 09:59:37 
Re: Moving tables between an iSeries and DB2 for Linux
"The Boss" <  2008-04-24 19:39:41 

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