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I just meant that I was pretty geeked out about "RAC" on Informix. I would
assume that most other Informixers would be too. But instead of being
geeked out about it you proceed to tell everyone what's wrong with the
world. You cannot be pleased by IBM, they won't do what you think is best.
Maybe a sad reality but a reality nonetheless.
When someone gives you a bowl of soup, do you say thank you and eat it or
complain because it wasn't marketed well enough, or enough effort was not
put into pouring it into the bowl?
I'll say no more because I don't want to contribute to the demise of this
thread.
Happy Informixing.
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From: Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: DL Redden <redden96@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:22:17 AM
Subject: RE: So now Informix has RAC
All the fun?
Naw. It must be that you have a boring life that you consider this *fun*.
When you get to blow something up, then you're having fun.
IDS isn't fun, its business.
The issue is that you have a very *viable* platform and its slowly getting
killed because of the business side of the shop.
You want fun, then lets talk about embedding an open source math library
in the engine.
You want fun, set up an HACMP set of servers, pull the plug on your main
server forcing a crash, and then wait 5 minutes before putting the cord
back in, and then rebooting. Time how long it takes to fully recover.
(That's fun, right?)
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Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:28:29 -0700
From: redden96@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: So now Informix has RAC
To: informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
suck all the fun out of this forum.
Maybe you just need to get laid. Smile a little, you'll like it.
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From: Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: ibmsoftwarequestions@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:58:18 AM
Subject: RE: So now Informix has RAC
> From: ibmsoftwarequestions@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Great news from IBM and shows continued commitment to Informix and
> developing Informix technology.
>
That was never in question since Janet left the building.
I think Janet left the building because IDS in the LUW (why I included
windows I don't know...) space is the best performer.
What was in question is when would the marketing/sales/higher ups grok
what they had and started to push it to the public.
The reason I griped about IBM wasn't the techies in the lab. (Including
Serge and the guys in Markham.) It was the fact that Databases were being
treated as a commodity and IDS was being shoved to the side as IBM flogged
DB2 to the masses. Even in white papers publishing cute "hacks" by Martie
Laurie on an IDS project have to mention DB2...
You want to go head to head against Postgress and Oracle, IDS will crush
them in terms of performance and ease of use. (Not to mention TCO)
But the "wins" and "customer success stories" aren't coming from IBM, but
the Ron Flannery(s) and Bell Micro(s) of the world. (And I know Paul and
Stuart are going to slam me for not mentioning their companies.)
The extensability is an under appreciated and under used feature because
the sales teams don't understand it and the competition doesn't offer it.
So why hasn't IBM capitalized on this? Why don't they offer research
grants? Why haven't they cross pollinated their "boffins" in NY to take
advantage of it?
I know Jerry K can't be everywhere, but where is his support from the
sales side? (This is why you have BDMs.)
But hey! What do I know? ;-)
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york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">I just meant that I was pretty geeked
out about "RAC" on Informix. I would assume that most other Informixers
would be too. But instead of being geeked out about it you proceed to tell
everyone what's wrong with the world. You cannot be pleased by IBM, they
won't do what you think is best. Maybe a sad reality but a reality
nonetheless.<br><br>When someone gives you a bowl of soup, do you say
thank you and eat it or complain because it wasn't marketed well enough,
or enough effort was not put into pouring it into the bowl?<br><br>I'll
say no more because I don't want to contribute to the demise of this
thread.<br><br>Happy Informixing.<br><br><div style="font-family: times
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All the fun?<br><br>Naw. It must be that you have a boring life that you
consider this *fun*.<br>When you get to blow something up, then you're
having fun.<br><br>IDS isn't fun, its business. <br><br>The issue is that
you have a very *viable* platform and its slowly getting killed because of
the business side of the shop.<br><br>You want fun, then lets talk about
embedding an open source math library in the engine.<br><br>You want fun,
set up an HACMP set of servers, pull the plug on your main server forcing
a crash, and then wait 5 minutes before putting the cord back in, and then
rebooting. Time how long it takes to fully recover. (That's fun,
right?)<br><br><br><br><blockquote><hr>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:28:29
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<br><br>> From: ibmsoftwarequestions@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Great news from IBM and shows continued commitment to Informix and<br>>
developing Informix technology.<br>> <br><br>That was never in question
since Janet left the building.<br><br>I think Janet left the building
because IDS in the LUW (why I included windows I don't know...) space is
the best performer.<br><br>What was in question is when would the
marketing/sales/higher ups grok what they had and started to push it to
the public.<br><br>The reason I griped about IBM wasn't the techies in the
lab. (Including Serge and the guys in Markham.) It was the fact that
Databases were being treated as a commodity and IDS was being shoved to
the side as IBM flogged DB2 to the masses. Even in white papers publishing
cute "hacks" by Martie Laurie on an IDS project have to mention DB2...
<br><br>You want to go head to head against Postgress and Oracle, IDS will
crush them in terms of
performance and ease of use. (Not to mention TCO)<br><br>But the "wins"
and "customer success stories" aren't coming from IBM, but the Ron
Flannery(s) and Bell Micro(s) of the world. (And I know Paul and Stuart
are going to slam me for not mentioning their companies.)<br><br>The
extensability is an under appreciated and under used feature because the
sales teams don't understand it and the competition doesn't offer
it.<br><br>So why hasn't IBM capitalized on this? Why don't they offer
research grants? Why haven't they cross pollinated their "boffins" in NY
to take advantage of it?<br>I know Jerry K can't be everywhere, but where
is his support from the sales side? (This is why you have
BDMs.)<br><br><br>But hey! What do I know? ;-)<br><br><br><br><hr>Make i'm
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