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RE: So now Informix has RAC

by Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 30, 2008 at 05:39 PM

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16 nodes?
Kind of puny when you think of it.
But what is Amazon doing with their RAC? Load Balancing and uptime?

I really wonder what configuration of IDS would be comparable. But alas,
su=
ch a benchmark would violate Oracle's License, so we'll never know.

What happens when Grid computing starts to take off?
Or Data Warehousing as A Service (DWaaS) ? (Not that I believe in DWaaS as
=
a viable business model...)

The point is that you can only toss so much hardware at a problem until
you=
 hit a max performance "wall".

Sorry Daniel, but when you have 128 "nodes" in you RAC, then you have
shown=
 scalability. And even that may be small for some of the potential use
case=
s.
And even 128 "nodes" could be considered small down the road.

I guess another issue would be the price per node running Oracle. I sure
wo=
uldn't want to run it on those nifty new T2 processors.

-G




> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 10:01:14 -0700
> From: damorgan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: So now Informix has RAC
> To: informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Obnoxio The Clown wrote:
> > ibmsoftwarequestions@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
> >> On 29 Apr, 22:44, dcrunch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> >>> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Database/IBM-UnCages-Cheetah-2-Data-Server/
> >>>
> >>> "IDS (Informix Dynamic Sever) 11.5, code-named "Cheetah 2," builds
on
> >>> the
> >>> failover-recovery capabilities of its predecessor by now sup****ting
f=
ull
> >>> read/write transactions across all nodes. The last version of IDS
onl=
y
> >>> sup****ted
> >>> reads on secondary nodes, the company said."
> >> Great news from IBM and shows continued commitment to Informix and
> >> developing Informix technology.
> >=20
> > I don't think it's fair to compare Cheetah 2 to RAC: Cheetah 2 will
sca=
le.
> > :o)
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> Unlike those 16 node RAC clusters at Amazon.com eh.
>=20
> But heck it is safer to trumpet something that has never been put into
> production than to look at examples of sites that have been running for
> years.
> --=20
> Daniel A. Morgan
> University of Wa****ngton
> damorgan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (replace x with u to respond)
> _______________________________________________
> Informix-list mailing list
> Informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

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16 nodes?<br>Kind of puny when you think of it.<br>But what is Amazon
doing=
 with their RAC? Load Balancing and uptime?<br><br>I really wonder what
con=
figuration of IDS would be comparable. But alas, such a benchmark would
vio=
late Oracle's License, so we'll never know.<br><br>What happens when Grid
c=
omputing starts to take off?<br>Or Data Warehousing as A Service (DWaaS) ?
=
(Not that I believe in DWaaS as a viable business model...)<br><br>The
poin=
t is that you can only toss so much hardware at a problem until you hit a
m=
ax performance "wall".<br><br>Sorry Daniel, but when you have 128 "nodes"
i=
n you RAC, then you have shown scalability. And even that may be small for
=
some of the potential use cases.<br>And even 128 "nodes" could be
considere=
d small down the road.<br><br>I guess another issue would be the price per
=
node running Oracle. I sure wouldn't want to run it on those nifty new T2
p=
rocessors.<br><br>-G<br><br><br><br><br>&gt; Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008
10:01:1=
4 -0700<br>&gt; From: damorgan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>&gt; Subject: Re: So now
Inform=
ix has RAC<br>&gt; To: informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>&gt; <br>&gt; Obnoxio The
=
Clown wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; ibmsoftwarequestions@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:<br>&gt;
&=
gt;&gt; On 29 Apr, 22:44, dcrunch...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
ht=
tp://www.eweek.com/c/a/Database/IBM-UnCages-Cheetah-2-Data-Server/<br>&gt;
=
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; "IDS (Informix Dynamic Sever) 11.5,
code-=
named "Cheetah 2," builds on<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; the<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
=
failover-recovery capabilities of its predecessor by now sup****ting
full<br=
>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; read/write transactions across all nodes. The last
versi=
on of IDS only<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; sup****ted<br>&gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; reads
on=
 secondary nodes, the company said."<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; Great news from IBM
a=
nd shows continued commitment to Informix and<br>&gt; &gt;&gt; developing
I=
nformix technology.<br>&gt; &gt; <br>&gt; &gt; I don't think it's fair to
c=
ompare Cheetah 2 to RAC: Cheetah 2 will scale.<br>&gt; &gt; :o)<br>&gt;
<br=
>&gt; Unlike those 16 node RAC clusters at Amazon.com eh.<br>&gt; <br>&gt;
=
But heck it is safer to trumpet something that has never been put
into<br>&=
gt; production than to look at examples of sites that have been running
for=
<br>&gt; years.<br>&gt; -- <br>&gt; Daniel A. Morgan<br>&gt; University of
=
Wa****ngton<br>&gt; damorgan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (replace x with u to
respond)<=
br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt;
Informix-li=
st mailing list<br>&gt; Informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>&gt;
http://www.iiug.org/=
mailman/listinfo/informix-list<br><br /><hr />Back to work after baby=96
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So now Informix has RAC
dcruncher4@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-04-29 14:44:50 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
ibmsoftwarequestions@[EMA  2008-04-30 02:01:20 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
Ian Michael Gumby <im_  2008-05-01 05:19:25 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
"Obnoxio The Clown&q  2008-04-30 13:55:55 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
DA Morgan <damorgan@[E  2008-04-30 10:01:14 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
Serge Rielau <srielau@  2008-04-30 13:21:36 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
DA Morgan <damorgan@[E  2008-04-30 11:39:27 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
Serge Rielau <srielau@  2008-04-30 18:11:39 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
DA Morgan <damorgan@[E  2008-04-30 18:01:26 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
Serge Rielau <srielau@  2008-05-01 06:03:45 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
DA Morgan <damorgan@[E  2008-05-01 09:27:32 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
Daniel Moron <daniel.m  2008-04-30 10:36:55 
RE: So now Informix has RAC
Ian Michael Gumby <im_  2008-04-30 12:58:18 
RE: So now Informix has RAC
Ian Michael Gumby <im_  2008-04-30 13:00:00 
RE: So now Informix has RAC
Ian Michael Gumby <im_  2008-04-30 17:39:25 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
InDeep <indeep@[EMAIL   2008-04-30 21:41:30 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
DA Morgan <damorgan@[E  2008-05-01 09:25:12 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
InDeep <indeep@[EMAIL   2008-05-01 11:37:05 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
DA Morgan <damorgan@[E  2008-05-01 18:24:50 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
dcruncher4@[EMAIL PROTECT  2008-05-02 02:43:56 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
InDeep <indeep@[EMAIL   2008-05-02 08:13:13 
RE: So now Informix has RAC
Peter Collett <lleu@[E  2008-05-01 12:38:15 
Re: So now Informix has RAC
"Rajesh Nair" &  2008-05-01 22:56:40 

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