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Your eyes and brackets betrayed you. You looked like my 14 year old =
daughter :-)
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Honestly, usually I am in the upper third with the old guys and the =
youngers have the majority. And I did notice the younger than me people =
attending, so I was not in the wrong sessions ;-) Lets say the age =
pyramid is a bit on the old side, but a new age pyramid around 25 is =
growing. And that little gap between both pyramids shouldn=B4t disturb =
much.
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Von: Sebastian, Norma J. [mailto:NormaJean.Sebastian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do 08.05.2008 02:21
An: J=F6rg Volz; Neil Truby; Informix list
Cc: Sebastian, Norma J.
Betreff: RE: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008
I think you were in the wrong sessions :)
being in the 40-ish age bracket myself, unless my eyes deceived me, I =
thought I saw an interesting number of younger folks.
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seriously, if you have contacts at universities or other youth oriented =
venues and would like some focus there, get in touch with me. I had =
some serious discussions with IBM at the conference regarding this very =
topic.
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thanks much,
Norma Jean Sebastian
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To: Neil Truby; Informix list
Subject: AW: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008
I totally agree, with my nearly 40 years I felt very young. But who says =
that only the young guys can do IT?
So think positive, when the younger DBAs have a family, kids and =
rediscover their hobbys again, they will move from Oracle to Informix to =
get the time they need. ;-)
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But: I was (positive!) surprised about the percentage of women attending =
the meeting.
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Von: informix-list-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
im Auftrag von Neil Truby
Gesendet: Mi 07.05.2008 22:27
An: informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Musings on the IIUG Conference 2008
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observation that I omitted for some reason, but several people =
commented
upon it, was the high average age of the attendees. Robert, who also
attended from Ardenta, is in his his early thirties and I wuld say he =
was
very comfortably in the bottom decile of the age distribution. I have =
one
Informix specialist at Ardenta who is still not 30, but he seems to be =
an
aberraton in this respsect, and a good 10-15 years younger than the =
average
Informix expert.
I think this is quite a worrying demographic for Informix - clearly many
years have gone past since youngsters think it worth studying - and this =
is
an im****tant thing to counter if Informix is to regain its pomp under =
the
renewed vigour of IBM's promotion.
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>Von:</B> Sebastian, Norma J. =
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><B>Gesendet:</B> Do =
08.05.2008 02:21<BR><B>An:</B> J=F6rg Volz; Neil Truby; Informix =
list<BR><B>Cc:</B> Sebastian, Norma J.<BR><B>Betreff:</B> RE: Musings on =
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class=3D502391200-08052008>seriously, if you have contacts at =
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Volz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Neil =
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this respsect, and a good 10-15 years younger than the =
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demographic for Informix - clearly many<BR>years have gone past since =
youngsters think it worth studying - and this is<BR>an im****tant thing =
to counter if Informix is to regain its pomp under the<BR>renewed vigour =
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