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Being a GUI centric person and a former user/dba of SQL Server, I relied
on the SQL Server management console to 'admin/monitor' my databases. =20
=20
When I changed to my current position, Informix was already here and I
needed a way to 'figure it out' since I was not (and still am not) a
true DBA, Informix or otherwise. I primarily wanted to see the data
structure I had to deal with (both tables/views/procedures in database
and data storage on server since I had never heard of raw partitions,
chunks, or dbspaces before Informix) and have been using server studio
installed on my Windows workstation to admin/monitor my Informix servers
running on HPUX (9.21, 9.4, and soon to be 10.0, 7 years total). =20
=20
I initially used the now defunct windows only version because I wanted
the SPL debugger, but that now use the Java version as it has the
debugging functionality. We have the 'suite' version minus the sentinel
and have been very happy with the product (have used it since version
4.x I believe). If I were to nitpick, there would probably be some
things I would like to see changed (based more on preference than
functionality), but it does everything I NEED it to do and much more
that I haven't yet explored/tried/read the do***entation about. =20
=20
There is a cost to using it beyond it's 'lite' feature set that Art
stated, but for me it has been worth it since I don't have to deal with
dbaccess, onstat, or onmode command lines for 99% of my needs.
=20
I do wish I could trace SQL statements from time to time and did try out
Sentinel during the trial period, but it still didn't give me EVERY
statement that was executed do to its polling times and couldn't justify
the cost of Sentinel to trace the limited items I was looking to use it
for. I can justify the cost of the "Suite" version just from the SPL
debugger alone for my needs.
=20
I have also submitted several bugs (at least to me)/ideas/wishes and
many have made it to the subsequent versions.
=20
Hope that gives you some insight into the product (at least from a
NON-dba that has to be a dba and developer and architect and ...:)
Guess it says more about Informix than me, but that's a different
thread:)
=20
Randy
=20
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From: informix-list-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Art Kagel
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:08 PM
To: Campbell, John (GE Money)
Cc: informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: server studio
=09
=09
At Oninit we use Server Studio and Sentinel to monitor nearly
all of our clients' servers. Sentinel collects data for us to review
periodically and notifies the clients' DBAs and our own sup****t people
when unusual conditions appear. The values monitored and alert levels
and responses are fully configurable.=20
=09
Like any software we run into bugs from time to time and AGS is
very responsive with fixes and upgrades. Over all, though, it just
works. Functionally the products do what they say they will do and
that's pretty much everything one needs them to do to completely monitor
your server and system functioning and performance and to discover and
analyze problems early. Server Studio also includes what you need to
design and maintain your database schema, SQL, and stored procedures
including the only SPL debugger out there. I like the products very
much.
=09
BTW, you received both Server Studio and Sentinel fully
functional versions with your IDS 9.40 installation. All you have to do
is install them and you will have a 30 (or 60? forget) trial of the full
feature set of both tools. At the end of the trial you can pay AGS
their fee for the full feature license, or continue to use Server
Studio's 'lite' feature set for free.
=09
Art S. Kagel
Oninit
=09
=09
=09
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Campbell, John (GE Money)
<John.Campbell2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
=09
We're on Solaris 9, IDS 9.4.FC5. Anyone have any info
about studio and sentinel? I've been on the IBM site and read the
marketing propaganda. Does anyone have any real experience with the
products?=20
=20
thx
John Campbell
=20
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Being a GUI centric person and a former =
user/dba of SQL=20
Server, I relied on the SQL Server management console to 'admin/monitor' =
my=20
databases. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>When I changed to my current position, Informix =
was already=20
here and I needed a way to 'figure it out' since I was not (and still am =
not) a=20
true DBA, Informix or otherwise. I primarily wanted to see the =
data=20
structure I had to deal with (both tables/views/procedures in database =
and data=20
storage on server since I had never heard of raw partitions, chunks, or =
dbspaces=20
before Informix) and have been using server studio installed on my =
Windows=20
workstation to admin/monitor my Informix servers running on HPUX (9.21, =
9.4, and=20
soon to be 10.0, 7 years total). </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I initially used the now defunct windows only =
version=20
because I wanted the SPL debugger, but that now use the Java version as =
it has=20
the debugging functionality. We have the 'suite' version =
minus=20
the sentinel and have been very happy with the product (have used it =
since=20
version 4.x I believe). If I were to nitpick, there would probably =
be some=20
things I would like to see changed (based more on preference than=20
functionality), but it does everything I NEED it to do and much more =
that I=20
haven't yet explored/tried/read the do***entation about. =20
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>There is a cost to using it beyond it's 'lite' =
feature set=20
that Art stated, but for me it has been worth it since I don't have to =
deal with=20
dbaccess, onstat, or onmode command lines for 99% of my=20
needs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I do wish I could trace SQL statements from =
time to time=20
and did try out Sentinel during the trial period, but it still didn't =
give me=20
EVERY statement that was executed do to its polling times and couldn't =
justify=20
the cost of Sentinel to trace the limited items I was looking to use it=20
for. I can justify the cost of the "Suite" version just from the =
SPL=20
debugger alone for my needs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I have also submitted several bugs (at least to =
me)/ideas/wishes and many have made it to the subsequent=20
versions.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D654502800-09052008><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hope that gives you some insight into the =
product (at least=20
from a NON-dba that has to be a dba and developer and architect and =
....:) =20
Guess it says more about Informix than me, but that's a different=20
thread:)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D2><STRONG>Randy</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
informix-list-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:informix-list-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Art=20
Kagel<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 08, 2008 5:08 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Campbell,=20
John (GE Money)<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
><B>Subject:</B> Re:=20
server studio<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>At Oninit we use Server Studio and Sentinel to monitor =
nearly all=20
of our clients' servers. Sentinel collects data for us to review =
periodically and notifies the clients' DBAs and our own sup****t people =
when=20
unusual conditions appear. The values monitored and alert levels =
and=20
responses are fully configurable. <BR><BR>Like any software we run =
into bugs=20
from time to time and AGS is very responsive with fixes and =
upgrades. =20
Over all, though, it just works. Functionally the products do =
what they=20
say they will do and that's pretty much everything one needs them to =
do to=20
completely monitor your server and system functioning and performance =
and to=20
discover and analyze problems early. Server Studio also includes =
what=20
you need to design and maintain your database schema, SQL, and stored=20
procedures including the only SPL debugger out there. I like the =
products very much.<BR><BR>BTW, you received both Server Studio and =
Sentinel=20
fully functional versions with your IDS 9.40 installation. All =
you have=20
to do is install them and you will have a 30 (or 60? forget) trial of =
the full=20
feature set of both tools. At the end of the trial you can pay =
AGS their=20
fee for the full feature license, or continue to use Server Studio's =
'lite'=20
feature set for free.<BR><BR>Art S. Kagel<BR>Oninit<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Campbell, =
John (GE=20
Money) <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:John.Campbell2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
">John.Campbell2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> =
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<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>We're on Solaris 9, IDS =
9.4.FC5. =20
Anyone have any info about studio and sentinel? I've been on =
the IBM=20
site and read the marketing propaganda. Does anyone have any =
real=20
experience with the products? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>thx</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John =
Campbell</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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