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RE: IM Consumability Survey

by Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 29, 2008 at 05:24 PM

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> From: david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: IM Consumability Survey
> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:55:09 -0700
> To: informix-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>=20
First, there are only a few very large customers like a Wal*Mart, K-Sears,
=
etc...

I could give you a list of large customers, however, I don't think IBM
woul=
d like me talking about them. ;-)

> Verizon moved to Informix last year.
>
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/success/cssdb.nsf/CS/LWIS-73GLVL?OpenDo***=
ent&Site=3Ddmmain&cty=3Den_us
>=20
Verizon has been a long time customer of Informix.=20
And they were/are large enough to warrant an on site Regency... er
Premiere=
 Services Engineer.

>=20
> Cisco have started using it inside WAN Manger
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/net_mgmt/cisco_wan_manager/11.0.00/databa=
se_interface/guide/backup.html
> http://www.informix-zone.com/node/263
>
http://www.informix-zone.com/files/presentations/dreamjob_balsbough_cisco=
..pdf
>=20

Yes, and so too does Moto imbed IDS. Unfortunately, the future for Moto
isn=
't so bright ...

Oh there are a lot of IDS customers out there and there are some former
Inf=
ormix customers that I could name too.

Moto, Siemens, Cisco, etc ... all OEM IDS.
Verizon,Wal*Mart, Home Depot, K-Sears all use IDS internally.

Two different groups of "customers".

And to InDeep's point,  these lists of customers are mainly un-named.
There=
 are a lot of companies using IDS, but no one knows this. IDS aka
Informix,=
 is the IT Industry's dirty little sekret. Unfortunately the one area that
=
IBM sucks is in viral marketing.

But hey!=20
Why fix something that even while broken, is still out selling DB2 on LUW
a=
ka distributed platforms? ;-)
Its not the product which is broke, but the marketing and sales effort of
I=
BM that is broke.

On a side note... While IBM's IDS management team tries to get the word
out=
 internally, just briefing the sales force isn't enough. You have to give
t=
he sales force incentives to sell the product. Did you ever wonder why the
=
sales force pushed so hard to convert IDS customers to DB2 right after the
=
acquisition? Simple really. The sales rep was comp'd on net new licenses.
A=
 conversion from IDS to DB2 counted as a net new license. And of course,
th=
e Informix customer was now an existing IBM customer so you had lower
barri=
ers to entry. ;-)

But hey! What do I know?
Its not like I spent 5 years in the belly of the beast cross matrix'd to
S&=
D... Oh wait. I was. :-(

-G


_________________________________________________________________
The other season of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the i=92m Talkathon.
http://www.imtalkathon.com?source=3DTXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving=

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<br><br>&gt; From: david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>&gt; Subject: Re: IM
Consumabilit=
y Survey<br>&gt; Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 03:55:09 -0700<br>&gt; To:
informix=
-list@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>&gt; <br>First, there are only a few very large
customers=
 like a Wal*Mart, K-Sears, etc...<br><br>I could give you a list of large
c=
ustomers, however, I don't think IBM would like me talking about them.
;-)<=
br><br>&gt; Verizon moved to Informix last year.<br>&gt;
http://www-01.ibm.=
com/software/success/cssdb.nsf/CS/LWIS-73GLVL?OpenDo***ent&amp;Site=3Ddmmai=
n&amp;cty=3Den_us<br>&gt; <br>Verizon has been a long time customer of
Info=
rmix. <br>And they were/are large enough to warrant an on site Regency...
e=
r Premiere Services Engineer.<br><br>&gt; <br>&gt; Cisco have started
using=
 it inside WAN Manger<br>&gt;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/net_mgmt/cisc=
o_wan_manager/11.0.00/database_interface/guide/backup.html<br>&gt;
http://w=
ww.informix-zone.com/node/263<br>&gt;
http://www.informix-zone.com/files/pr=
esentations/dreamjob_balsbough_cisco.pdf<br>&gt; <br><br>Yes, and so too
do=
es Moto imbed IDS. Unfortunately, the future for Moto isn't so bright
...<b=
r><br>Oh there are a lot of IDS customers out there and there are some
form=
er Informix customers that I could name too.<br><br>Moto, Siemens, Cisco,
e=
tc ... all OEM IDS.<br>Verizon,Wal*Mart, Home Depot, K-Sears all use IDS
in=
ternally.<br><br>Two different groups of "customers".<br><br>And to
InDeep'=
s point,&nbsp; these lists of customers are mainly un-named. There are a
lo=
t of companies using IDS, but no one knows this. IDS aka Informix, is the
I=
T Industry's dirty little sekret. Unfortunately the one area that IBM
sucks=
 is in viral marketing.<br><br>But hey! <br>Why fix something that even
whi=
le broken, is still out selling DB2 on LUW aka distributed platforms?
;-)<b=
r>Its not the product which is broke, but the marketing and sales effort
of=
 IBM that is broke.<br><br>On a side note... While IBM's IDS management
tea=
m tries to get the word out internally, just briefing the sales force
isn't=
 enough. You have to give the sales force incentives to sell the product.
D=
id you ever wonder why the sales force pushed so hard to convert IDS
custom=
ers to DB2 right after the acquisition? Simple really. The sales rep was
co=
mp'd on net new licenses. A conversion from IDS to DB2 counted as a net
new=
 license. And of course, the Informix customer was now an existing IBM
cust=
omer so you had lower barriers to entry. ;-)<br><br>But hey! What do I
know=
?<br>Its not like I spent 5 years in the belly of the beast cross matrix'd
=
to S&amp;D... Oh wait. I was. :-(<br><br>-G<br><br><br /><hr />The other
se=
ason of giving begins 6/24/08. Check out the i=92m Talkathon. <a
href=3D'ht=
tp://www.imtalkathon.com?source=3DTXT_EML_WLH_SeasonOfGiving'
target=3D'_ne=
w'>Check it out!</a></body>
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RE: IM Consumability Survey
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