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Re: [Info-Ingres] page_size on iietabs

by =?iso-8859-1?Q?Laframboise_Andr=E9?= <andre.laframboise@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 7, 2008 at 11:04 AM

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I once though a sysmod might include iietabs, but it doesn't.
=20
I considered a modify to the new page size on an iietab table once, but =
eventually opted out.
Not being familiar with the 'behind the scenes' iietab management, I =
went for the safe, much longer way.

________________________________

From: Martin Bowes [mailto:martin.bowes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 May 7, 2008 9:51 AM
To: Ingres and related product discussion forum
Cc: Laframboise Andr=E9
Subject: RE: [Info-Ingres] page_size on iietabs



Hi Andre,

=20

Dropping the original and recreating would take at least two hours.

=20

I'm lucky enough to have an agreement with the owner to take the =
database  offline at the moment and connect with +U and modify the =
catalog directly. I'm not sure how long that will take, but it should be =
less.

=20

BTW. Expanding to 8k will probably buy me another year before I'm in =
this problem again ... on this column. Can I make the etab a partitioned =
table?

=20

Marty

=20

From: info-ingres-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 =
[mailto:info-ingres-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of =
Laframboise Andr=E9
Sent: 07 May 2008 14:25
To: Ingres and related product discussion forum
Subject: Re: [Info-Ingres] page_size on iietabs

=20

There's a page size and structure parameter for iietabs in CBF.

=20

We have ours at 64K pages.

=20

blob_etab_page_size                      =20
blob_etab_structure

=20

Once you set this, copy your existing table to a temp table, drop the =
original and re-create/copy.

=20

Andre =20

________________________________

From: info-ingres-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 =
[mailto:info-ingres-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of =
Martin Bowes
Sent: May 7, 2008 9:00 AM
To: Ingres and related product discussion forum
Subject: [Info-Ingres] page_size on iietabs

Hi Everyone,

=20

I have a table with 4 long varchar columns. The table itself has only  =
793613 rows on 142675 pages, but one of its sup****ting iietabs has just =
reached the magical 8.3million rows (1 row per page). And so now an =
insert into the table fails as the blob table cannot be extended.

=20

If this were an ordinary table I would simply expand the page size from =
2k to 8k and buy myself some more time. But I can't seem to do that with =
the iietab. I was hoping the page size would be copied from the base =
table when creating the blob table but this doesn't appear to be the =
case and its stuck on 2k pages.

=20

Is there a configuration parameter, or modify option that allows me to =
specify the page size on the iietabs?

=20

Would making the base table partitioned help the iietab?

=20

 Ingres version is: II 9.0.4 (a64.lnx/105)NPTL + patch12707

=20

Martin Bowes


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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D406175714-07052008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I once though a sysmod might include iietabs, =
but it=20
doesn't.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D406175714-07052008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D406175714-07052008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I considered a modify to the new page size on=20
an&nbsp;iietab table once, but eventually opted out.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D406175714-07052008><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Not being familiar with the 'behind the scenes' =
iietab=20
management, I went for </FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D406175714-07052008><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>the safe, much longer=20
way.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Martin Bowes=20
[mailto:martin.bowes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <BR><B>Sent:</B> May 7, 2008 9:51=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Ingres and related product discussion =
forum<BR><B>Cc:</B>=20
Laframboise Andr=E9<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Info-Ingres] page_size on=20
iietabs<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Hi =
Andre,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Dropping the =
original and=20
recreating would take at least two hours.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">I'm lucky enough to =
have an=20
agreement with the owner to take the database&nbsp; offline at the =
moment and=20
connect with +U and modify the catalog directly. I'm not sure how long =
that will=20
take, but it should be less.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">BTW. Expanding to 8k =
will=20
probably buy me another year before I'm in this problem again =85 on =
this column.=20
Can I make the etab a partitioned table?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d">Marty<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Tahoma','sans-serif'">=20
info-ingres-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Laframboise Andr=E9<BR><B>Sent:</B> 07 May 2008 14:25<BR><B>To:</B> =
Ingres and=20
related product discussion forum<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Info-Ingres] =
page_size=20
on iietabs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">There's=20
a page size and structure parameter for iietabs in CBF.</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">We have=20
ours at 64K pages.</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">blob_etab_page_size&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>blob_etab_structure</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">Once you=20
set this, copy your existing table to a temp table, drop the original =
and=20
re-create/copy.</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Arial','sans-serif'">Andre&nbsp;=20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
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lang=3DEN-US style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
'Tahoma','sans-serif'">=20
info-ingres-bounces@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 <B>On Behalf Of=20
</B>Martin Bowes<BR><B>Sent:</B> May 7, 2008 9:00 AM<BR><B>To:</B> =
Ingres and=20
related product discussion forum<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Info-Ingres] =
page_size on=20
iietabs</SPAN><SPAN lang=3DEN-US=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New =
Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Hi Everyone,<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>I have a table with 4 long varchar columns. The =
table itself=20
has only &nbsp;793613 rows on 142675 pages, but one of its sup****ting =
iietabs=20
has just reached the magical 8.3million rows (1 row per page). And so =
now an=20
insert into the table fails as the blob table cannot be =
extended.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>If this were an ordinary table I would simply =
expand the page=20
size from 2k to 8k and buy myself some more time. But I can't seem to do =
that=20
with the iietab. I was hoping the page size would be copied from the =
base table=20
when creating the blob table but this doesn't appear to be the case and =
its=20
stuck on 2k pages.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Is there a configuration parameter, or modify =
option that=20
allows me to specify the page size on the iietabs?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Would making the base table partitioned help the=20
iietab?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;Ingres version is: II 9.0.4 (a64.lnx/105)NPTL =
+=20
patch12707<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Martin Bowes<o:p></o:p></P></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Re: [Info-Ingres] page_size on iietabs
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