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Re: Problems With SQL Agent in SQL 7

by "Roy Harvey (SQL Server MVP)" <roy_harvey@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 29, 2008 at 10:42 PM

I find it strange that the backups through Veritas never used to
appear in the SQL Server log.  I would have expected them to always be
there.

I'm afraid I can't be of much help.  Even when I used SQL Server 7.0,
I never used Agent to run anything.  I was working in a shop that had
a sophisticated (and VERY expensive) batch scheduling tool which we
used for all our backups and maintenance.

It sounds like a possible permissions problem of some kind, but beyond
that I have no clue.

Good luck!

Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT

On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 01:54:20 GMT, "Neil" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Yes -- after I wrote the post, I found out that the backup is being 
>performed by the tape backup system's agent, which hooks into SQL Server.

>The only thing is, this has been going on for years, and has never 
>interfered with SQL Server Agent before. Also, the tape backup agent's 
>backups never appeared in the SQL log before. (The software is Veritas 
>Agent, I believe.)
>
>So, in summary:
>
>1) Vertias Agent has been running for years doing nightly backup to tape,

>without interfering with SQL Server Agent, and without its backups
appearing 
>on the SQL Server log.
>
>2) On 4/17, an update to Windows 2000 Server was installed, and, that 
>evening, the Veritas Agent backups started appearing on the SQL Server
log. 
>(The sys admin swears he didn't update or change anything with Veritas
Agent 
>or SQL Server -- only the Windows 2000 Server update.)
>
>3) After the Veritas Agent backups started appearing on the SQL Server
logs, 
>the night of 4/17, the regular SQL Server Agent maintenance and backup
jobs 
>stopped working. They would execute, but would remain on "executing step
1" 
>indefinitely. When I tried to run each step manually, the results were
the 
>same, with the exception of the backup. When I ran the SQL Server Agent 
>backup job manually, it did backup the master and msdb databases; but it 
>hung indefinitely when backing up my database.
>
>So that's the situation. Now how to get out of it and get SQL Server
Agent 
>to start working again.
>
>Neil
>
>
>"Roy Harvey (SQL Server MVP)" <roy_harvey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:uvke1454aqpg4rriceqh5uo3aenuedcktd@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> It has been a long time since I've worked with SQL Server 7.0, and I
>> don't have the docs handy, but the thought I have is that a third
>> party backup tool is running the database backups.  As ****pped SQL
>> Server can only back up to a disk file (local or remote) or a tape
>> drive physically attached to the server.  However they provided hooks
>> for third party backup software vendors to write an agent that runs on
>> the SQL Server; the agent initiates the backup and routes the data to
>> the backup program running on a centralized system.  That allows
>> backup directly to tape with the tape drive on another server.
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Roy Harvey
>> Beacon Falls, CT
>>
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:43:33 GMT, "Neil" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>Having problems with SQL Agent in SQL 7. Just noticed that my backup 
>>>hasn't
>>>been running since the 17th. Went into SQL Agent, and the 4 jobs that
it
>>>does (integrity checks, optimizations, transaction log backup, and db
>>>backup) were all hanging -- still running "step 1" from the 18th.
>>>
>>>I stopped SQL Agent and restarted it, and tried running the integrity
>>>checks. It hung.
>>>
>>>Stopped SQL Agent and restarted it and tried running optimizations. It 
>>>hung.
>>>
>>>Stopped SQL Agent and restarted it and tried running db backups. The 
>>>backups
>>>job runs three backups: master, msdb, and my database. Interestingly,
the
>>>backup job created a backup for master and msdb, but didn't create a 
>>>backup
>>>for my database. The job just continually showed that it was being 
>>>processed
>>>when I looked in EM, under Management, SQL Server Agent, Jobs.
>>>
>>>I stopped SQL Agent again, and restarted it. Then I did a manual backup
of
>>>my database. The manual backup worked fine. Also, the database itself 
>>>seems
>>>to have been working fine these past 11 days. But, for some reason, SQL
>>>Agent won't run the jobs for my database.
>>>
>>>As noted, the last successful running of the jobs was on the 17th,
between 
>>>4
>>>and 5 a.m. On that same day, between 3 and 4 a.m., the sys admin
applied
>>>some Windows 2000 Server security updates and rebooted the server. Then

>>>the
>>>jobs ran an hour later. Then, on the 18th, the integrity checks ran
>>>successfully at 4:10. After that, nothing ran successfully.
>>>
>>>Even stranger, still, are the SQL Server Logs.
>>>
>>>The SQL Server logs show SQL Server stopping at 3:29 am on the 17th
>>>(probably at the time of reboot), and then restarting at 3:35 am, and
then
>>>completing the backups of the three databases at 4:37 and 4:38 am.
That's
>>>all fine.
>>>
>>>Then, that night, at 10:08 pm on the 17th, there's a log entry that
reads:
>>>"Using 'xpsql70.dll' version '2000.28.09' to execute extended stored
>>>procedure 'xp_msver'"
>>>
>>>Then, at 11:00 pm that same night, EVERY database was backed up
(master,
>>>model, msdb, Northwind, pubs, my database, and another I have there
called
>>>test1). They all got backed up at 11:00 pm on the 17th, even though I
have
>>>no maintenance plan that specifies that they should be backed up.
>>>
>>>Then, after the 17th, according to the logs, those 7 databases got
backed 
>>>up
>>>every night between 10 and 11 pm -- but at a different time each night:
>>>10:41 on the 18th; then 10:37 the following night; then 10:41; then
10:42;
>>>then 10:51; 10:57; etc. Clearly, these backups are happening at the end
of
>>>another job, which is taking longer and longer.
>>>
>>>But the question still remains: what caused these 7 backups to happen
in 
>>>the
>>>first place? The Windows 2000 Server updates that the admin applied the
>>>morning of the 17th? And why do my regular Agent jobs not execute, but 
>>>just
>>>hang indefinitely?
>>>
>>>Also, though the log shows these 7 backups running every night, I don't

>>>see
>>>the backups anywhere. Looking at the properties for one of the log 
>>>entries,
>>>I see the following:
>>>
>>>Database backed up with following information: Database: Northwind, 
>>>creation
>>>date and time: 2002/05/19(12:03:16), pages dumped: 371, first LSN: 
>>>26:426:1,
>>>last LSN: 26:428:1, sort order: 52, striped: 0, number of dump devices:
1,
>>>device information: (FILE=1, TYPE=VIRTUAL_DEVICE:
>>>{'Northwind_00__8b6a35a5_2ead_4045_8bc2_c975392f0020_'}).
>>>
>>>So it's backing up to a virtual device, which explains why I don't see
the
>>>backups anywhere.
>>>
>>>Anyway, any ideas as to what might be going on and how I may be able to

>>>fix
>>>it so that my regular maintenance jobs and backups are able to run
again
>>>would be appreciated. Thanks!
>>>
>>>Neil
>>> 
>
 




 5 Posts in Topic:
Problems With SQL Agent in SQL 7
"Neil" <nosp  2008-04-29 14:43:33 
Re: Problems With SQL Agent in SQL 7
"Roy Harvey (SQL Ser  2008-04-29 13:04:57 
Re: Problems With SQL Agent in SQL 7
"Neil" <nosp  2008-04-30 01:54:20 
Re: Problems With SQL Agent in SQL 7
"Roy Harvey (SQL Ser  2008-04-29 22:42:06 
Re: Problems With SQL Agent in SQL 7
"Neil" <nosp  2008-05-02 10:35:17 

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