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Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface

by "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 22, 2006 at 11:12 AM

On 21 Apr 2006 13:48:12 -0700, Mikito Harakiri wrote:

> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>> It shares its "wrong something" with RM - there is
>> no universal search strategy.
> 
> Never heard of "universal search strategy". Is it the thingy that
> universal turing machine does?

Different languages / paradigms call it different. It might be
"inference",
"optimization", "fitting", "search." Turing machine does not do it. That
is
the problem. You cannot write an implementation of Prolog or of RDBMS
which
would solve *each* problem in a close to optimal way. Specialized programs
written in universal purpose languages outperform integrated engines by
margin. What is worse, to achieve a better performance people start to
hack
design breaking otherwise nice abstraction. In the end one has neither
clean maintainable code, nor performance.

> As for "wrong something" you forgot the
> most often cited RM defect: "flat" relations.

There wasn't much work on components either for languages like Prolog, or
for SQL. So it actually is difficult to say if with more advanced
languages
based on same paradigms one could have composable abstractions. One
concern
is that abstractions seem tend to be hierarchical (like values -> types ->
cl***** -> sets of types in OOPL.) But that is an observation from the
opposite camp, it might be wrong.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
 




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Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-12 00:57:05 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-13 16:48:22 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-14 00:56:12 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-16 16:25:50 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-17 07:39:07 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-17 20:07:26 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-18 23:13:34 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-22 10:11:59 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Pascal Bourguignon <pj  2006-04-23 01:55:15 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-28 09:23:34 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-21 13:05:58 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Pascal Bourguignon <pj  2006-04-21 16:33:02 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-21 14:49:06 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Pascal Bourguignon <pj  2006-04-21 17:13:44 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-21 17:13:50 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-21 18:33:19 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-21 20:44:02 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"David Cressey"  2006-04-22 15:04:03 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bill Atkins <NOatkinwS  2006-04-22 12:57:37 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-22 17:29:38 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
A..L. <alewando@[EMAIL  2006-04-22 14:11:05 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Frank Hamersley <terab  2006-04-23 08:30:45 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Dmitry A. Kazakov&q  2006-04-21 22:27:47 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Dmitry A. Kazakov&q  2006-04-22 11:12:09 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Sasa <sasa555@[EMAIL P  2006-04-21 22:38:36 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-21 21:03:30 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Sasa <sasa555@[EMAIL P  2006-04-22 07:40:29 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-22 10:47:30 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-22 18:46:57 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Sasa <sasa555@[EMAIL P  2006-04-22 21:58:37 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
Bob Badour <bbadour@[E  2006-04-22 20:10:22 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-22 10:20:37 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
"Nick Malik [Microso  2006-04-22 12:29:41 
Re: Storing data and code in a Db with LISP-like interface
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