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Re: Getting management to move from green screen

by Ross Ferris <rossf@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 24, 2008 at 04:42 AM

On Mar 24, 3:44=A0pm, GVP <prya...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> :)
>
> I have told about field. I'm not novice in programming. :)
>
> Validation is very complex problem. Problem is INPUT FOCUS. Green
> screen have fixed focus.
> GUI float.Only two way of validation are present.
> 1 By form (validation logic at client) and delayed validation at
> server
> 2 By field (validation at server). This is very complex and slow in
> GUI. Program should move focus after each validation.

Just a few minor points. In my experience, field by field validation
doesn't always need to take place at the server (eg: numeric ranges,
dates, select boxes), isn't "complex" and isn't necessarily "slow" (I
would suggest "faster than a user can enter" is fast enough!)

Moving focus after a successful validation is conceptually no
different than in a green screen, with focus staying on the
"current" (last entered) field in the event that entered data fails
validation.

I hope that you would agree that for people moving from a green screen
environment to GUI that field by field validation has a more "natural"
feel to it, than "form validation", which whilst "familiar" to someone
used to 3270, is a totally foreign and "complex" concept for most
MVDBMS developers

>
> In any case (GUI), program don't know when it should validate field -
> when field lost focus or when field receives it.
>
> As result, most of GUI applications uses delayed validation.
>

We obviously move in different circles, as most GUI applications that
I am aware of work using a field by field validation paradigm, rather
than "form submit" (delayed validation as you call it), and they
certainly DO know when validation is required!!
 




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Getting management to move from green screen
sh <shamada@[EMAIL PRO  2008-03-14 10:06:15 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Dale <dale_benedict@[E  2008-03-14 08:31:14 
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rockingred <willsteve2  2008-03-27 06:56:19 
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GVP <gvp@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-14 10:01:40 
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Kevin Powick <kpowick@  2008-03-14 11:17:00 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Tony Gravagno <address  2008-03-14 11:42:16 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Dale <dale_benedict@[E  2008-03-14 13:56:41 
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Martin Phillips <Marti  2008-03-15 04:40:30 
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JJCSR <JCronin@[EMAIL   2008-03-15 06:35:47 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
GVP <gvp@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-15 09:12:35 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
GVP <gvp@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-03-15 09:14:59 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
"Peter McMurray"  2008-03-16 02:09:39 
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"mvdbms@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-03-17 23:15:05 
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GlenB <batchelg@[EMAIL  2008-03-20 13:27:24 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
"Chandru Murthi"  2008-03-20 21:00:56 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
"GlenB" <bat  2008-03-20 22:04:03 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
"Chandru Murthi"  2008-03-21 16:00:27 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-20 17:43:26 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
"GlenB" <bat  2008-03-20 22:26:40 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-20 21:37:37 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-21 06:23:04 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
"Jeff Caspari"   2008-03-21 13:40:14 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Tony Gravagno <address  2008-03-21 11:04:30 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-21 07:00:24 
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Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-21 07:13:11 
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GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-21 08:17:53 
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dawn <dawnwolthuis@[EM  2008-03-21 14:47:43 
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dawn <dawnwolthuis@[EM  2008-03-21 14:50:45 
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geneb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-24 14:58:01 
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"Excalibur" <  2008-03-25 05:05:26 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
geneb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-25 14:05:27 
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GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-21 16:05:33 
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GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-21 16:24:06 
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GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-21 16:45:18 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Tom Phillips <squash@[  2008-03-21 21:08:16 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-22 05:42:58 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
"Jeff Caspari"   2008-03-22 23:26:33 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Tony Gravagno <address  2008-03-23 13:43:40 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-22 06:02:26 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-22 06:27:19 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Rick Weiser <rickw@[EM  2008-03-22 08:15:53 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-22 21:59:55 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-23 03:48:38 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-23 17:46:55 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-23 18:40:12 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
dawn <dawnwolthuis@[EM  2008-03-23 18:57:09 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-23 20:55:59 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
GVP <pryamov@[EMAIL PR  2008-03-23 21:44:18 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Tony Gravagno <address  2008-03-25 12:51:45 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Ross Ferris <rossf@[EM  2008-03-24 04:42:18 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Kevin Powick <kpowick@  2008-03-25 09:09:56 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
geneb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-25 20:41:30 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
Kevin Powick <kpowick@  2008-03-25 16:59:42 
Re: Getting management to move from green screen
geneb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-26 14:16:29 

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