Hi Dawn
I have just installed a small Vista network and the client could not be
happier.
Despite all the razzing we set up UAC with no hassles and safely shared
the
childrens internet connections with the office machines then we found that
the extended capabilities are numerous particularly with the wider screens
that are now de rigueur. This is the first time in many years that I have
actually seen something exciting in the office environment that is easy to
use and has genuine advantage. Plus as a VAR I am very aware of the fact
that one can buy nothing else now in the places that matter. It is well
worth learning as it is different, better, and shares the base with
Windows
Server 2008. The juggernaut rolls on :-)
I have taken note of Art's comments about Ubuntu and done just a little
follow up on it. Apparently this is quite a common occurence with Ubuntu
and does depend on what one is using to run it. VirtualBOX seems like a
good idea now that Sun has it and I am mightily impressed with the latest
versions of Parallels and VMware, I shall be able to comment on the
Microsoft virtual product in the very near future, however Tony has
happily
used it for a year or two without complaint and that is high praise
indeed.
It appears that many Ubuntu folks try dual boot etc., but it tends to grab
the boot region and the rest of the disk so the trick is to put it on
last.
Then of course you will still need to source the correct drivers if you
haven't got them out of the box with XP, Sony Vaio suppliers seem to be
particularly lax in this regard which is pretty poor given the quality of
the hardware. This is hardly the fault of Microsoft though many of the
dedicated would love to think so.
I found it interesting that the Ubuntu site seems to work well enough with
Firefox but is flaky with Explorer which no doubt reflects the attitude of
the software writers but again is not Microsoft's fault. I sometimes
wonder
what would have happened if Gary Kildall hadn't been tooling around in his
new plane and his wife had not been scared of losing her house with room
for
a pony, when IBM came calling. The simple fact of life is that Microsoft
built "The Field of Dreams" that people wanted and offered it at a price
that people could afford and the crowds came. Personally I was sad to see
the back of the Microstar, an excellent office machine in it's day but
that
is the way it goes. Now I am going to have to get my head around Cloud
Computing, SaaS etc, I can no longer charge a years salary for a package
as
we did back in the 70's nor can I afford to answer the telephone for free.
When we first charged an annual maintenance fee and provided telephone
sup****t via an acoustic coupler at 300 baud we were accused of being
robbers
by some. Now I have ideas for a timing gadget on my new Vista screen, my
partner already uses an excellent to do list gadget, and I intend to
charge
sup****t by the quarter hour through Mastercard. My clients have used that
part of our software to charge for Home Gas and Fuel card purchases for
many
years so it is not a great leap although the release of "Pen or Pin" on
June
4 may bring some new little twist with it.
I look forward to viewing your Cache Zen developments, and yes any new
developments I do will definitely still have a Pick backend.
Peter McMurray
"dawn" <dawnwolthuis@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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May 11, 1:21 am, "Peter McMurray" <excalibu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> Hi Art
> If an HP does not work then send it back. It is quite simple XP is the
> largest selling desktop in the world therefore the faukt is with the
> installer not XP.
I'm guessing it is the problem that I had to avoid when I just
purchased a Dell Latitude 630 running XP even though I would have
preferred one of the newer models. If you buy a newer model laptop
from most vendors (all, I'm guessing) it will come with Vista on it.
If you try to load XP on it, you will find that there are no drivers
for one thing or another. I'm not usually so conservative with my
personal computer, often happy to be an early adopter, but I'm
avoiding Vista as if it had an unncessary learning curve and pain-and-
suffering factor right now. cheers! --dawn
> On had the impression from your post that you are trying
> to do an install on your own with no supplier assistance. I wan't
spinning
> anything.
> Peter McMurray"art" <artma...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Peter McMurray wrote:
> >> Hi Art
> >> AS Tony said maybe you just didn't try hard enough to find the
drivers
> >> since you have obviously bought some strange kit.
>
> > I'm sure HP (a small local company; not!) would appreciate your
> > description of their latest and greatest product offering, running
> > Microsoft's latest and greatest OS - Vista, sold at one of the major
> > big-box distributors in this area, Circuit City. This just shows how
> > hard
> > you try to spin things to suit your particular point of view.
> > Art
>
> >> Since when do computers not crash LOVL. As I pointed out in my post
> >> thunderstorms, cyclonic winds, lazy linesmen who just flick the line
> >> out
> >> for a few minutes
>
> > Ever hear of a UPS?
>
> >> kit arrives, and yes Dell does run Vista, XP, Windows server and
> >> probably
> >> Linux but I cannot be sure about that last one :-)
>
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