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Re: getting sup****t for developers

by gabriele.bartolini@[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Gabriele Bartolini") Mar 11, 2008 at 11:03 AM

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Ciao Magnus,

I don't know if we can easily do that. I don't know if it's just in Sweden
> or if it's a EU-wide thing, but I think it's EU-wide. But i you cannot
> prove that you are a legal organisation as well, you end up basically
> being
> employed by PGEU in this case, which means that we have to pay a bunch
of
> taxes and stuff. And the amount of paperwork to deal with is just
> insane...


I guess it all depends on international agreements between the
contributor's
country (and jurisdicial form) and Postgres Europe's country, in this case
France.

I would assume that PGEU gathers money from sponsor****ps and decides how
to
spend that money (which is a different issue). Buying code from developers
could be an activity. I would assume that in EU, VAT is not an issue. I do
not know with Russia, but I assume that taxes should be paid by each
contributors individually at the end of the year - not on the single
contract. In any case, a professional advisor is needed.

In general PGEU could commission a feature development to a developer or a
group (again, I do not want to consider for the moment the way to handle
this - which is a completely different problem), the developer invoices
PGEU, PGEU pays. :)

As an alternative, PGEU could setup a "shelf" of proposed features on the
website, and let "companies" buy it directly.

For instance:

1) Developer 1 says: I am willing to do this and I want 5k euro (gross)
for
that.
2) PGEU posts this offer on the website in a dedicated area saying that
companies can sponsor that feature for 5k + X euro (X euro is decided by
the
board and is the price for the company banner on the website shelf for the
period of development + 1 year after the completion)
3) The company that sponsors that:
    * gets in touch with the developer 1 and organises the contract for 5k
euro
    * pays another X euro to PGEU as a donation/sponsor****p which puts up
a
banner on the shelf saying that company X is sponsoring this feature and
allows the company to show a PG code sponsor on their web page

Of course this is just a rough idea, which needs a detailed analysis and
discussion within - at least - PGEU direction.

Ciao,
Gabriele

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<div><div>Ciao Magnus,<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I don&#39;t know if we can easily do that. I
don&#39;t know if it&#39;s just in Sweden<br>
 or if it&#39;s a EU-wide thing, but I think it&#39;s EU-wide. But i you
cannot<br> prove that you are a legal organisation as well, you end up
basically being<br> employed by PGEU in this case, which means that we
have to pay a bunch of<br>
 taxes and stuff. And the amount of paperwork to deal with is just
insane...</blockquote><div><br>I guess it all depends on international
agreements between the contributor&#39;s country (and jurisdicial form)
and Postgres Europe&#39;s country, in this case France.<br>
<br>I would assume that PGEU gathers money from sponsor****ps and decides
how to spend that money (which is a different issue). Buying code from
developers could be an activity. I would assume that in EU, VAT is not an
issue. I do not know with Russia, but I assume that taxes should be paid
by each contributors individually at the end of the year - not on the
single contract. In any case, a professional advisor is needed.<br>
<br>In general PGEU could commission a feature development to a developer
or a group (again, I do not want to consider for the moment the way to
handle this - which is a completely different problem), the developer
invoices PGEU, PGEU pays. :)<br>
<br>As an alternative, PGEU could setup a &quot;shelf&quot; of proposed
features on the website, and let &quot;companies&quot; buy it
directly.<br><br>For instance:<br><br>1) Developer 1 says: I am willing to
do this and I want 5k euro (gross) for that.<br>
2) PGEU posts this offer on the website in a dedicated area saying that
companies can sponsor that feature for 5k + X euro (X euro is decided by
the board and is the price for the company banner on the website shelf for
the period of development + 1 year after the completion)<br>
3) The company that sponsors that:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * gets in touch
with the developer 1 and organises the contract for 5k
euro<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; * pays another X euro to PGEU as a
donation/sponsor****p which puts up a banner on the shelf saying that
company X is sponsoring this feature and allows the company to show a PG
code sponsor on their web page<br>
<br>Of course this is just a rough idea, which needs a detailed analysis
and discussion within - at least - PGEU
direction.<br></div></div><br>Ciao,<br>Gabriele<br>

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oleg@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-11 02:42:17 
Re: getting support for developers
jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-03-10 16:54:32 
Re: getting support for developers
josh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-10 16:26:15 
Re: getting support for developers
magnus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-11 10:28:17 
Re: getting support for developers
oleg@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (  2008-03-11 03:34:37 
Re: getting support for developers
gabriele.bartolini@[EMAIL  2008-03-11 11:03:03 
Re: getting support for developers
magnus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-11 12:38:01 
Re: getting support for developers
gabriele.bartolini@[EMAIL  2008-03-11 12:50:58 
Re: getting support for developers
cedric.villemain@[EMAIL P  2008-03-13 11:48:19 
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