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Re: pgAdmin vs. the competition

by pgadmin@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Pflug) Mar 28, 2008 at 04:38 PM

Guillaume Lelarge wrote:
> Greg Smith a écrit :
>> [...]
>> For starters it seems to lack UI elements that have been in the GUI 
>> world since Windows 3.11.
>
> I think crossplatform development doesn't help on this issue. And 
> wxWidgets seems, well, less interesting (in the UI) than Qt for example.
>
>> Whenever PostgreSQL is busy the UI fails to give any clue, no icon 
>> changes to a spinning hourglass, no status bar filling up, not even a 
>> mindless pop-up saying "busy...".  This is painfully obvious when 
>> doing a BACKUP or RESTORE.
>
> For the backup/restore stuff, I don't think pgAdmin can actually do 
> something better. We heavily rely on pg_dump/pg_restore. Any other UI 
> tool would need to do the same.
It IS possible to do better, 'though it would be much easier if pgAdmin 
didn't need to use pg_dump/pg_restore external processes.

> I completely agree on this. pgAdmin is really far far far away from 
> SQL Manager. But they have many more developers than us, and they 
> don't have to handle crossdevelopment. We need to show our differences 
> : remote configuration, Slony sup****t, etc. Adding pgPool, pgPool-II 
> and pgBouncer sup****t would be great and is something I would like to 
> add as soon as possible.
IMNSHO a persistent problem is the somewhat restricted view of 
developers of additional needs, i.e. there's no good sup****t in the 
tools for re-usage. Examples:
The request for pg_dump/pg_restore functionality in a library is quite 
old. Controlling the processes isn't too much fun when doing 
cross-development.
Slony capsules its operations in the slonik executable as well, in a 
very unix-like fa****on. Slony sup****t in pgadmin is mostly a 
re-implementation, a reinvention of the wheel.

Both could provide a library, with the executables just being a thin 
shell around it (converting cmd line/config file params to config 
structures handled over to the lib). Same problem will probably arise 
with pgPool et al.

Regards,
Andreas




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pgAdmin vs. the competition
gsmith@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-27 21:17:24 
Re: pgAdmin vs. the competition
guillaume@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-03-28 15:49:04 
Re: pgAdmin vs. the competition
pgadmin@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-28 16:38:03 
Re: pgAdmin vs. the competition
ishii@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-02 12:39:11 
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ishii@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-31 12:35:46 
Re: pgAdmin vs. the competition
xzilla@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-01 21:21:23 
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xzilla@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-01 21:28:09 

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