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Re: Restoring DB using Continuous Archive Backup

by ashish.karalkar@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (ashish) Mar 28, 2008 at 12:55 PM

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nick wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply, a****sh.
>
>  
>
> Sorry, should've been more specific.
>
>  
>
> By running WAL, I mean reprocessing the WALs up to a certain point of
> time.
>
>  
>
> For example:
>
>  
>
> A backup is made at 0000 hours. Something happens. Restore has to be
> made at 2000.
>
>  
>
> Since the backup is at 0000, 20 hours' worth of transactions will be
> stored in WAL. To get the data up to the 2000 the WALs have to be
> reprocessed. I realize the only way for this to work is by data file
> duplication, so this mean the service has to be stopped anyway to
> allow the files to be restored.
>
>  
>
Yes , Service has to be stopped and started to restore from the WAL and
also make sure that no one connects to the database during this phase by
ensuring proper pg_hba.conf.
>
> But there may be a requirement to not take the system offline so I'm
> looking for a method to do the restore and WAL reprocessing without
> stopping then starting the service like described in the manual.
>
>  
>
When something is "already happened" to database then what is it worth
to connect to that database before bringing it to proper place.

Correct me if I am mis understanding you.

Other way around i think is create another database cluster and restore
the database there instead on your current cluster. But I doubt on this.

> It would be of great help if it's possible.
>
>  
>

With Regards
A****sh
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>  
>
> Nick
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* a****sh [mailto:a****sh.karalkar@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2008 7:40 PM
> *To:* nick
> *Cc:* pgsql-novice@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Subject:* Re: [NOVICE] Restoring DB using Continuous Archive Backup
>
>  
>
> nick wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>  
>
> I just got PGSQL up and running yesterday. One of the features that
> intrigue me is the WAL. I am running tests to perform DB restores
> using WAL. The last attempt ended in disaster and a reinstall.
>
>  
>
> This may sound retarded. I can't seem to get a clear picture from the
> manual. I quote (Chapter 24.3.3 Step 4):
>
> / /
>
> /_Restore the database files from your backup dump_//. Be careful that
> they are restored with the right/
>
> /owner****p (the database system user, not //root//!) and with the
> right permissions. If you are using/
>
> /tablespaces, you should verify that the symbolic links in
> //pg_tblspc/ //were correctly restored./
>
> / /
>
> I need to know which kind of backup (as there are multiple suggested
> in the manual) would that (underlined) be referring to?
>
>  
>
> File system level backup
>
> Is there a way to detach/attach databases (like ms-sql) and so perform
> restoration on only one database instead of bringing down the service?
>
>  
>
> As far as i think  the answer is NO
>
> Is there a method to re-run WAL after restoring an old backup without
> resorting to a service stop-start?
>
> Not clear need more info.
>
>  
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
>  
>
> Nick
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
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the reply, </span></font><font color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
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should&#8217;ve been more specific.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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navy;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">By running
WAL, I mean reprocessing the
WALs up to a certain point of time. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
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navy;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">For
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">A backup is
made at 0000 hours. Something
happens. Restore has to be made at 2000.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Since the
backup is at 0000, 20 hours&#8217;
worth of transactions will be stored in WAL. To get the data up to the
2000 the
WALs have to be reprocessed. I realize the only way for this to work is
by data
file duplication, so this mean the service has to be stopped anyway to
allow
the files to be restored.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
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Yes , Service has to be stopped and started to restore from the WAL and
also make sure that no one connects to the database during this phase
by ensuring proper pg_hba.conf.<br>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">But there
may be a requirement to not take
the system offline so I&#8217;m looking for a method to do the restore and
WAL
reprocessing without stopping then starting the service like described
in the
manual. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
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navy;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
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When something is "already happened" to database then what is it worth
to connect to that database before bringing it to proper place.<br>
<br>
Correct me if I am mis understanding you.<br>
<br>
Other way around i think is create another database cluster and restore
the database there instead on your current cluster. But I doubt on
this.<br>
<br>
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of great help if it&#8217;s
possible.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<br>
With Regards<br>
A****sh<br>
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font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
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a****sh [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
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<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March
27, 2008
7:40 PM<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> nick<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> <st1:PersonName
 w:st="on"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:pgsql-novice@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NOVICE]
Restoring DB
using Continuous Archive Backup</span></font><font color="black"><span
 style="color: windowtext;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  </div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
 size="3"><span style="font-size:
12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
 size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">nick wrote:
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Hi
everyone,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial;"><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I just got PGSQL up and
running yesterday. One of the
features that intrigue me is the WAL. I am running tests to perform DB
restores
using WAL. The last attempt ended in disaster and a reinstall.
<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Arial;"><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">This may sound retarded.
I can&#8217;t seem to get a
clear picture from the manual. I quote (Chapter 24.3.3 Step
4):<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><i><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;"><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><i><u><font color="black"
 face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;">Restore
the database files from your backup dump</span></font></u></i><i><font
 face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;">.
Be careful that they are restored with the
right<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><i><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;">owner****p
(the database system user, not </span></font></i><i><font
 face="NimbusMonL-Regu" size="1"><span
 style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: NimbusMonL-Regu; font-style:
italic;">root</span></font></i><i><font
 face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;">!)
and with the right permissions. If you are
using<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><i><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;">tablespaces,
you should verify that the symbolic links in </span></font></i><i><font
 face="NimbusMonL-Regu" size="1"><span
 style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: NimbusMonL-Regu; font-style:
italic;">pg_tblspc/
  </span></font></i><i><font face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;">were
correctly restored.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><i><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu; font-style:
italic;"><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font></i><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu;">I need to
know which
kind of backup (as there are multiple suggested in the manual) would
that
(underlined) be referring to? <u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
NimbusRomNo9L-Regu;"><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
 size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">File system level backup
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu;">Is there a
way to
detach/attach databases (like ms-sql) and so perform restoration on
only one
database instead of bringing down the
service?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
NimbusRomNo9L-Regu;"><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
 size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">As far as i think&nbsp; the
answer
is NO<br>
  <br>
  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu;">Is there a
method to
re-run WAL after restoring an old backup without resorting to a service
stop-start?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="Times New Roman"
 size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Not clear need more info.<br>
  <br>
  <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
NimbusRomNo9L-Regu;"><u1:p></u1:p><u1:p>&nbsp;</u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: NimbusRomNo9L-Regu;">Thanks in
advance,<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" face="NimbusRomNo9L-Regu"
 size="2"><span
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