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Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6

by bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Momjian) May 14, 2008 at 09:43 PM

Alvaro Herrera wrote:
> Bruce Momjian wrote:
> 
> > I know we decided not to do that, but I am trying to figure out what
the
> > goal if 'help' is?  To display the most frequently-used help commands?

> > Aren't they at the top of \?.
> 
> The purpose of 'help' is to provide useful help.  If it only says "see
\?"
> then it's just redirecting you somewhere else, which isn't useful.
> 
> I don't think the various help commands need to be completely
> orthogonal.  If you agree with that, then making 'help' repeat part of
> what \? says is acceptable.  (Of course, the idea is not just to repeat,
> but also to provide useful advice to the unwary.)

OK.

> Remember, the people who is going to type 'help' is not the 10-year-Pg-
> experience types.  It's the newbies.

The larger issue is whether we want to advertise only "help" in the
startup banner.  The patch has just:

	Type: help for help.

Now, aside from being confusing (we need quotes around "help"), I
thought we should only mention \?.

My question is whether we agreed that suggesting "help" as the best way
to get help was what we agreed upon?  If we did, I forgot.  I thought
the 'help' ideas was just for people who forgot the help commands.

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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-04-23 14:41:20 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-04-23 17:52:43 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-04-23 22:30:41 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 19:28:01 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 19:34:00 
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alvherre@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-14 19:48:41 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 20:14:23 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-05-14 17:52:47 
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alvherre@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-14 21:22:03 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 21:43:56 
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alvherre@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-14 21:53:27 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 21:59:23 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-05-14 19:08:09 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 22:21:46 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-05-14 19:28:49 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-14 22:32:15 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-05-14 19:41:19 
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tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-05-15 02:48:35 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 08:43:24 
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tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-05-15 10:43:24 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-05-15 07:51:13 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 11:46:41 
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andrew@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 11:54:47 
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alvherre@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-15 12:09:25 
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rm_pg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 10:20:53 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 14:31:32 
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tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-05-15 14:37:14 
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daveg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 13:26:50 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 17:17:40 
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david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 15:06:26 
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andrew@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 18:55:31 
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tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-05-15 18:57:12 
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david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 16:03:20 
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david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 16:02:50 
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andrew@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 21:02:16 
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alvherre@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-15 21:14:41 
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andrew@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 21:22:18 
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tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-05-15 23:52:30 
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guillaume@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-19 19:48:27 
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bryce2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-20 08:23:03 
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guillaume@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-20 22:23:19 
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tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-07-02 23:38:29 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-05-15 20:33:22 
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jd@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (&q  2008-05-15 09:02:47 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 12:12:36 
Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6
alvherre@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-05-15 14:37:47 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 15:21:37 
Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6
tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-05-15 15:46:21 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 15:52:52 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-16 13:18:00 
Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6
david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 22:38:38 
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bruce@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-30 20:09:08 
Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6
tgl@[EMAIL PROTECTED] (T  2008-05-16 01:22:55 
Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6
david@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 22:08:41 
Re: Patch to change psql default banner v6
stark@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-15 23:41:37 

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